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podling7th Heaven is a severely screwed up yet oddly surreal show. Let me just start with that. So anyway, for some reason I occasionally find myself drawn in, kind of like when I used to watch yoshi's screen saver for hours. Anyway, so in this week's very special episode Lucy wants her boyfriend to ask for her hand in marriage, and wants it on Valentine's Day, dammitall! This is further complicated by her not thinking he will, so telling him not to, straight out. So then she's all upset and freaking because even though he loves her, and she loves him, and they plan on being together, he's not going to ask her right THEN. And I was thinking, what a stupid problem to have, this is so obviously a tv show, no one really has that issue. But then I recalled back 4 years ago, when I first met ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
astrophysicat, when she came in freaking out about the same thing and I thought it was a really strange issue to have, but hey, I'd only met her a few times and she was a bit odd anyway... (this would be with her ex-ex-ex-ex-bf that she was engaged to). Granted, Cara came up with a more practical solution than crying and carrying on like Lucy did, but then again, in 7th Heaven land, he of *course* had planned this psycho expensive way to propose on v-day as she required for full happiness. And then there was this other couple who had only started dating, and who had never actually said, "I love you" yet, but were planning on also getting engaged. Que? There actually was one good moment in the show, when Ruthie kissed her boyfriend awake for their first kiss. That was randomly sweet, and not anywhere near as freaky as the rest. There were other things that made this episode freaky and surreal, but I'll stop there for now. Wait, one more! So this little kid calls his mom and tells her he got her a guy for v-day!!!
But so this brings me to V-day. I just don't get that whole scenario. Why would you want to be proposed to then? I mean, really, it's a fake holiday to display loving emotions that you *should* be showing year-round. Good, loving, sensual experiences should be something you aim for in everyday life, not a once a year phenomenon. Eroticism should be something to celebrate with much greater frequency than that!
Honestly, I don't think I'll be proposed to this Valentine's Day and really, I'm okay with that. Personally, I'd rather be proposed to on a weird day of the year, one of the solstices or equinoxes (equinii?), or better yet, the day when the clocks change in the fall, so it'll be a moment when time is weird! Plus autumn is my favorite season. See, that's something to remember! But whatever! I think the whole marriage thing is something that is far off in my future, if it's even present on my timeline.
Now,astrophysicat has a pretty good success rate for becoming engaged. Of her last 5 boyfriends, she's been engaged to 2. That's 40% success! I think she should shoot for a higher average, but for some reason, she thinks not at the moment. Something about how engagements are supposed to lead to marriage, so they're not really successes anyway... She may have a point. I bet the 7th Heaven people will all live happily ever after though...
astrophysicat, when she came in freaking out about the same thing and I thought it was a really strange issue to have, but hey, I'd only met her a few times and she was a bit odd anyway... (this would be with her ex-ex-ex-ex-bf that she was engaged to). Granted, Cara came up with a more practical solution than crying and carrying on like Lucy did, but then again, in 7th Heaven land, he of *course* had planned this psycho expensive way to propose on v-day as she required for full happiness. And then there was this other couple who had only started dating, and who had never actually said, "I love you" yet, but were planning on also getting engaged. Que? There actually was one good moment in the show, when Ruthie kissed her boyfriend awake for their first kiss. That was randomly sweet, and not anywhere near as freaky as the rest. There were other things that made this episode freaky and surreal, but I'll stop there for now. Wait, one more! So this little kid calls his mom and tells her he got her a guy for v-day!!! But so this brings me to V-day. I just don't get that whole scenario. Why would you want to be proposed to then? I mean, really, it's a fake holiday to display loving emotions that you *should* be showing year-round. Good, loving, sensual experiences should be something you aim for in everyday life, not a once a year phenomenon. Eroticism should be something to celebrate with much greater frequency than that!
Honestly, I don't think I'll be proposed to this Valentine's Day and really, I'm okay with that. Personally, I'd rather be proposed to on a weird day of the year, one of the solstices or equinoxes (equinii?), or better yet, the day when the clocks change in the fall, so it'll be a moment when time is weird! Plus autumn is my favorite season. See, that's something to remember! But whatever! I think the whole marriage thing is something that is far off in my future, if it's even present on my timeline.
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astrophysicat has a pretty good success rate for becoming engaged. Of her last 5 boyfriends, she's been engaged to 2. That's 40% success! I think she should shoot for a higher average, but for some reason, she thinks not at the moment. Something about how engagements are supposed to lead to marriage, so they're not really successes anyway... She may have a point. I bet the 7th Heaven people will all live happily ever after though...
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Date: 2003-02-12 09:07 pm (UTC)GodCat
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Date: 2003-02-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(long rant about V-day moved to my own journal.)
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You know, that's something that's always bugged me, actually. Dating is "supposed" to lead to engagement and living together and marriage and a house and kids happily ever after, and if you don't end up with that then somehow the relationship was a "failure". It took me a long time to recognize that attitude and why I was so upset with it. Maybe just connecting with people and learning from each other is "success" itself?
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Date: 2003-02-13 05:12 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2003-02-13 06:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-02-13 06:36 am (UTC)Anyway, yeah, I was wondering about that. How did he get rich? I thought I'd missed some explanation but apparently not. It does explain some things, though I'm not sure it explains him moving into her parents house when he decided he'd hang around until she decided she was ready to marry him. I think his dad was a fire fighter, 'cause the younger one was trying to be like him or something like that. Maybe their mom got a large insurance settlement or something?
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Date: 2003-02-13 06:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-02-13 06:43 am (UTC)Arbor Day!!! I'll keep that in mind and tell every serious boyfriend you ever have from now on.
In answer to your question though, I don't think it's bad. I mean, I've only had one or two and pretty much they were nightmares.
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Date: 2003-02-13 07:24 am (UTC)So in that sense, yes they were failures, and I should stop having them. Next time there's going to be a 6 month time limit. Limited time offer, must act now.
Oh, and Justin claims "Darevdevil" is not a date movie. I told
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Date: 2003-02-13 07:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-02-13 07:50 am (UTC)And why isn't "Daredevil" a date movie? Any movie can be a date movie, if the people going to it want to see it. Okay, maybe not "The Last Seduction", but action movies can be date movies! And what do you mean you don't know any women?
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Date: 2003-02-13 07:52 am (UTC)Plurals
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Date: 2003-02-13 08:13 am (UTC)Justin just thought I was on crack.
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Date: 2003-02-13 08:52 am (UTC)Why do all these movies have to have male leads though?
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Date: 2003-02-13 09:00 am (UTC)Re: Plurals
Date: 2003-02-13 09:26 am (UTC)GodCat
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Date: 2003-02-13 09:27 am (UTC)GodCat
ICK!
Date: 2003-02-13 10:50 am (UTC)::tee hee:: Feminist rant here I come!
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Date: 2003-02-13 12:30 pm (UTC)Re: ICK!
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Date: 2003-02-13 12:42 pm (UTC)And when you say "these movies" do you mean superhero ones? If so... I think there are just less solo-female comic book heros than there are male. Most of the woman superheroes tend to be affiliated with a team, x-men, avengers, justice league, etc. And really, most of the superhero movies made so far have been ones with really big followings and runs of many, many years. Daredevil, even though he's more a cult favorite, still goes back quite a while.
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Date: 2003-02-13 12:56 pm (UTC)I never had a date for Valentine's Day till I got engaged. Oh, wait, I'm forgetting about the ex-bf of six years. He was way more into it than I was. I also got dumped on it once (by someone else) though.
I like horror movies on Valentine's Day.
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Date: 2003-02-13 12:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-02-13 01:00 pm (UTC)My first date movie ever was The Princess Bride.
The best date movie (well, it was a video) I ever had was The Adventures of Robin Hood (Errol Flynn).
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Date: 2003-02-13 03:04 pm (UTC)Lucy is a twit pure and simple. There is not an ounce of potential minister in her. She absolutely defines herself in terms of him, and having a guy who's better to her than Mary has.
But to be fair, no one in that family cares about anything other than dating, boys and girls alike, so, it's not exactly sexist, just twitilicious.
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